Showing posts with label some wind funk. Show all posts
Showing posts with label some wind funk. Show all posts

Friday, April 24, 2009

Waves for the weekend – Plenty of swell but some wind issues

Both Saturday and Sunday will be surf days...but like the last couple of days...the quality of surf is going to vary greatly spot to spot.

The S swell (180-210) will be slowly fading on Saturday (and continue to fade on Sunday). We will also see some new building NW windswell and background SW swell (200-220). Expect plenty of energy showing at most spots throughout SoCal, with the exception of the Santa Barbara area, so there will be lots of waves. Unfortunately you will have to have something to break up the more dominant S swell if you want to have decent shape. Check out the CDIPper



Winds will be an issue this weekend...the same sort of eddy/onshore flow that we saw on Thursday and Friday will continue for both Saturday and Sunday. Mornings and midmornings will be the cleanest, but you can still expect texture at the more exposed beaches. Winds will be primarily variable onshore to southerly and will stay below 5-8 knots for most areas. Check out the NWS for both Sat/Sun at 8am.

Saturday


Sunday


Afternoons look windy on both days.

Shapewise...Saturday morning the points and reefs are going to be the best call again. The walls of death, (well not really death...walls of injury...maybe walls of humiliation or walls of frustration would be more apt), will continue at the beach breaks.

By Sunday there will be a bit more windswell in the water so the combo spots, even some of the more exposed beach breaks, should get a little more crossed up. I think that with the new NW windswell and the dropping energy in the S swell we could see a little more peaky shape...maybe not solid a-frames...but at least a little more shoulderly that we have seen over the last couple of days. Tides will continue to be funky...but the low tide gets more firmly planted during the dawn patrol so at least the morning will have a better chance at decent shape.

Have a good one this weekend...and stay safe...here are the tides.

Saturday
04:14AM LDT -0.9 L
10:24AM LDT 3.8 H
03:35PM LDT 1.3 L
09:42PM LDT 6.0 H

Sunday
04:59AM LDT -1.1 L
11:15AM LDT 3.6 H
04:09PM LDT 1.6 L
10:20PM LDT 6.0 H

Thursday, March 12, 2009

S swells for the Weekend – quick update

It still looks like those overlapping S swells (180-200) will peak over this upcoming weekend.

Exposed spots...mostly in Orange County and San Diego...will have consistent surf in the chest-shoulder high range with some inconsistent head high sets. The standout S facing spots, mostly just in the OC, will have some inconsistent overhead sets.

This isn’t going to be a super huge swell...but considering the winter we just slogged through it is nice to get some new swell heading our direction. Check out the CDIP for the next couple of days (sideways forecasts!)



It isn’t super descriptive thanks to the CDIPer’s having the scale dialed out to 3’ wave ranges...but you get the general feel of how the swell is going to hit over the weekend.

It is important (and you can tell by my excellent madden-style photoshopping) to note that there is going to be some shadowing for LA county from Catalina and San Clemente islands (and the whole cortez banks area as well). It doesn’t mean that it is going to get totally shut out but it will be about 40-50% smaller than the other areas. Stupid islands.

The wind forecast right now isn’t looking great...but fortunately the wind models have been totally jacked up on certain levels...so I expect to see some of the harsher parts of the wind model mellow out over the next few forecast runs. Really we should be expecting some onshore texture for almost all areas...lightest through the mornings (and cleanest on Saturday)...afternoons are going to be pretty hacked up so try and surf early.

I will have another “waves for the weekend” update tomorrow but I thought I could help you plan a little by posting this one today.

Monday, March 2, 2009

Surf for Tuesday – new W-WNW swell moving in

We will have some new waves on Tuesday but, thanks to conditions, I am not sure it will be a full out surf day.

New W-WNW swell (270-300) coming from a storm just off the California coast is just starting to fill in...it isn’t showing much yet, but it will continue to build through tomorrow morning and start to peak sometime in the evening (holding waves into Wednesday). There is also a touch of background SW swell in the water that will strengthen more as we head into the middle of the week.

Check out the CDIP right now...you can actually see the new swell being fed into the model. It isn’t hitting the beach yet but the “potential” is starting to show.



This is sort of a “nerd alert” so if you are just looking for surf then skip ahead...

This is a great time to talk about one of the issues of the CDIP model...particularly this graphic that covers the SoCal Bight (the area from SB down through San Diego and includes the nearshore islands). The CDIP model has a particular weakness...basically it initializes the graphic image off of data from a Buoy...in this case the Harvest Buoy that sits outside of Point Conception.

The computer that runs the model basically takes the data from the Harvest Buoy and says “OK if this is what is showing here, at this fixed point, then this is how the swell would interact with the rest of the Socal Bight). Unfortunately it doesn’t account for the time difference between the buoy and the beach...so potentially the model could have a several hour difference between the jump in the “colors” on the image and actual waves at the beach.

This is particularly maddening for W-NW swells because it will show energy that hasn’t hit the beach yet...but it does mess with us on S swells too because the Harvest Buoy is higher in latitude than most of the rest of SoCal...so by the time it shows on this model then it has already hit the beach.

The CDIP guys actually have a FAQ that talks about this... CDIP FAQ

But this is the section that is particularly relevant...

"The model only simulates waves arriving from outside the islands (wave periods of 8 seconds and longer). It doesn't consider any local generation of seas.

To create the image, deep water wave data is collected by a Datawell buoy in 549 meters of water, about 19 kilometers west of Pt. Arguello. This data is transferred to the Coastal Data Information Program at Scripps at approximately 30 minute intervals.

The buoy data is processed to produce an estimate of the deep water directional spectrum (shown at the bottom left of the image). Because there is a time difference between the time the swell reaches the buoy and the time it reaches the beaches, the image is not really a "snapshot" of estimated heights. For a swell from the W-NW, the lag between a swell reaching San Diego after being measured at the buoy is typically around 6 hours or so, making the image more of a short range forecast for San Diego. However, for a south swell, the waves have pretty much hit all the Southern California beaches before reaching the buoy, making the estimates of a south swell more of a hindcast. "


This is another good example of the “need” to have a lot of tools in your forecasting toolbox...anyway I just thought I would share and try and shore up a little of the “Great the model says there is surf but it is flat right now...WTF?” confusion.

End “nerd alert”...

So back to the surf...with this new W-WNW energy and the touch of SW swell...I am expecting the average exposed spots to be in the waist-chest high range for tomorrow morning with some shoulder high sets mixing in at times and becoming more consistent by the end of the day.

The Standout W facing spots, mostly in San Diego, Ventura, and the South Bay...will have surf in the chest-shoulder high+ range fairly consistently. There will be some head high sets mixing in early and I expect some overhead sets coming through by the afternoon.

The winds may be an issue...current forecasts are not calling for a lot of onshore flow but some of the models are showing some W-NW flow, around 5-8 knots, through the morning and some 10-12 knot bump by the afternoon. It may lay down in the evening but a lot will depend on how much pushes through midday.

Personally I think this swell has potential to be fun...I wish we could count on the wind but thems the breaks. I am probably going to get up early and do a cam check (and look at some of the sites out there that carry real-time winds) just to see if it is chunking up the conditions. This is a pretty democratic swell so a lot of spots will be able to pull it in...basically Santa Barbara on down to San Diego...just expect the biggest shape at spots that normally do well on W-WNW swells.

We can expect sort of stacked up windswelly shape no matter what the wind is doing...it is just the nature of the swell, but if you have a spot that focus the energy, (or a point that can groom it out a little bit), you might get some better sections. That is all I got for now (sorry for the super-duper long post)...cross your fingers that the winds can stay down.

Here are the tides...it is a weird tide swing day...

12:29AM LST 4.9 H
08:45AM LST 0.5 L
The next high tide is on Wednesday @ 01:47AM LST (4.8 H)